Paying extra for service has inspired rebellions, swivelling iPads, and irritation from Trotsky and Larry David. Post-pandemic, the practice has entered a new stage.

  • viking
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    1 month ago

    I’m saying fair wages and no tips would benefit everybody.

    • ericjmorey@discuss.online
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 month ago

      The problem is that you’re proposing getting rid of one of the few ways to make a living wage as an incentive to possibly change to a better system. Gotta find a way that doesn’t require taking good pay away from people or you’re just being cruel because of a fixation on not wanting to pay tips.

      • viking
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        1 month ago

        My point is rather that the tipping system has become so exploitative and expected, that some people rather don’t eat out at all than don’t tip to avoid stigma.

        So this is less about canceling tipping rather than reining it back in. Getting rid of it would be preferable imho because it ensures everybody gets at least minimum wage and can set their priorities straight with regards to setting expectations, but ‘back to the roots’ where 10% was considered exceptional.

        • ericjmorey@discuss.online
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 month ago

          everybody already gets at least minimum wage unless the employer is breaking the law.

          Your suggestions seem hellbent on making life worse for millions because of an aversion to cusom.

          • druidgreeneyes@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            1 month ago

            Can’t speak for elsewhere but most places in the US carve out an exception to minimum wage laws that allows tipped workers to be paid less on the assumption that they’ll make up the difference in tips.

            • ericjmorey@discuss.online
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              15 days ago

              All of those laws include a provision that the employer must pay at least the minimum wage of a non-tipped worker in any pay period where the tips received don’t account for the difference between the tipped minimum wage and the non-tipped minimum wage. Thus, everyone is receiving at least the non-tipped minimum wage unless the employer is breaking the law.