• henfredemars
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    26 days ago

    The things consumers most want are features they really don’t want to give us, like expandable storage, replaceable batteries, and other actual solvable problems where they stand to benefit.

    Best I can do is AI.

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      I’ll just stay over here with a phone I can repair that fits in my pocket with a 3.5mm headphone jack until they turn off the 4g network, ok.

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          Samsung S10e

          nothing fancy just a proper small flagship phone, had it since new and battery life is still perfectly fine, never had to repair anything. I think android support has just ended recently so I’m going to be flashing a newer OS soon and get many more years out of it. as with anything you own, take care of it and it will take care of you.

          literally any phone should last you multiple years, if that’s not the case for you the type of phone isn’t the problem.

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          I have the Fairphone 5, it has everything mentioned and 5G but no 3.5mm jack.

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      26 days ago

      The free market has been deliberately shit at meeting the demands of consumers for quite some time. Big players like Apple have been very good at manufacturing hype and loyalty to deliver mediocre products for a consistent revenue stream instead. Smaller companies are either too irrelevant to make an impact or just try to mimic the more successful companies instead.

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      I went from a 6.5 year old iPhone to a 16 man pro max big and it’s amazing. I dig that I can keep a phone for over six years

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      Fairphone 5 can do that, and even give you choice over your RAM.

      Although the phone isn’t sold in the US, it will work the best on T-Mobile since the Fairphone 5’s chipset best aligns with those frequencies (sorry for the reddit post).

      Would’ve been my first phone after my previous 7 year old Galaxy Note9, but it incurred water damage. Definitely considering it still though even with my new phone lease because of the Fairphone 5 being unlocked

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        24 days ago

        Real shame it’s not sold in the States! And I would prefer a higher-end processor option but I understand the choice for support.

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        26 days ago

        I’m not sure how many people need more storage but the current way is predatory and the general public would pick up battery swaps pretty easily.

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          When your phone is no longer locked down and working against you, it’s amazing how much more you can - and will - do with it, and the extra storage space quickly becomes most appreciated.

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            have been discontinued or unpopular.

            …and? Manufacturers will drop expandable storage because they can charge $100+ more for a model with another 128gb. Yes they still sell phones with them but they’re not the flagships.

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              Are there phones with expandable storage that people could buy to avoid that cost?

              If so, why aren’t they that popular?

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                Why are you like this? There’s no reason I can’t have a phone with a nice screen, top of the lime camera, and the above. Other than no one wanting to sell one.

                And yes, any decent phone will take good enough photos but is that the point?

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                  I’m sure there’s companies that make them. But if people wanted them, and they’re able to buy them, then there must be some reason they’re not.

                  Maybe it’s because most people - not internet nerds like us - don’t care about those things.

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                    My wife had an iPhone XR. She loved it. It was all she needed. However it was only 64 GB and she ran out of storage. If it had an expandable storage option she would still be using it. Your comment is daft.

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                    Aux jack, sure, I’ll even give you expandable storage, but everyone could benefit from removable batteries.

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                    People that don’t care about that just don’t know that they could have that option. They will complain for a bit and suck it up, or even better (for the manufacture) a newer one that has more storage, more Milliamperes, and such.

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                    Yes, the reason they aren’t is they want people to buy new phones, not fix and upgrade their current ones. This is not hard to figure out.

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            The phones with those features have been discontinued but they were never unpopular, they were just what phones were.

            Nobody 10 years ago was saying “I wish I couldn’t replace my phone battery” or “I hate that I have the option to plug my wired IEMs into my phone”

            People just do what people are good at. Adapting.

            Manufacturers have taken these options away because it is profitable to do so. People have largely adapted to that (although I still refuse to buy a phone without a headphone jack)

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              Yes, and the reason it was profitable to do so was that people don’t care about them.

              If they did care, the companies that removed them would have gone out of business.

              So, again, most people - of which we are not - do not care about these features.

              Sorry to burst your bubble.

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        Dude we used to have expandable storage in the form of micro SD cards and same with batteries. People know or could figure it out.