Forces had no direct confrontation with Hamas terrorists who killed hostages; ‘The IDF and security forces are doing everything possible to bring all hostages home as quickly as possible. This news shakes us all,’ says army spokesperson Hagari

Israeli forces discovered the bodies of six hostages in a 65-foot-deep tunnel in Rafah, approximately a kilometer from where hostage Farhan Alkadi was recently freed. The IDF had no precise intelligence on the hostages’ location in recent months but knew there were captives in the sector, leading to a gradual and cautious operation in Rafah since the ground offensive began.

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    You’re an ignorant person man. Your mistaking a war with a genocide. Hamas can end the conflict tomorrow by surrendering. A conflict they started by murdering, enslaving and raping undeniably innocent people.

    If Hamas surrenders and the bombs keep falling nobody will be yelling genocide more than I. But equating incompetence on the part of Hamas’s defense strategy and stubbornness on it’s war goals with a genocide. Hamas’ blind and overconfident aggression is the cause of theses deaths in Gaza. Being blind to that doesn’t make you moral.

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      Soulless, heartless, justifier of genocide. I ain’t talking to ya. I ain’t even reading it. There’s no amount of information to justify what Israel has done. Even if Hamas was everything you want to believe they are, the embodiment of pure evil, that still wouldn’t justify genocide. Just cause it’s a “war” doesn’t mean you can just blow up civilian buildings and shoot humanitarian workers. Bet your the kind of mindless scumbag who thinks the nukes were justified too. Targeting civilians means nothing to you.

      I hope one day you could be on the receiving end of someone else’s ““justified war””. Live in the shoes of a person born on the wrong side of the border. Maybe that perspective of watching your family and friends and neighbors die on a daily basis would change you.

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        3 months ago

        I ain’t even reading it.

        Everything you need to know about your position.

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          I don’t “hear out” the reasons a Nazi has for justifying genocide. Do you? Like to sit at their table and have a chat? Listen to his drivle and morally unfounded bullshit? You sure do. But I don’t listen to Nazis.

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            3 months ago

            I don’t “hear out” the reasons a Nazi has for justifying genocide. Do you?

            Dude dunking on Nazi’s is sort of what I do.

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              And yet, here you are, arguing for a genocide. Calling people who recognize it as such “naive” for not understanding how justified this genocide is! Don’t he know how evil that palastinian civilian population is? Don’t he know that they had it coming? That they deserve it? That it’s the only way to stop them? I do not care for your justifications when the thing your justifying is ideals of ethnic cleansing, apartheid and genocide. I do not care for whatever justifications you tell yourself to hide the shame that you ain’t any different than a swastika wearing son of a bitch.

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                I’m arguing for a Hamas surrender. Don’t know if you realized but there’s a war on. What your mistaking for a genocide, is a war. A war the side you seem to support started. And a war they can end tomorrow with a surrender.

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                    Honestly I hope you look at it now and shatter. This support for Hamas (both fiscal and moral) coming from people like you is the #1 thing preventing the rise of a legitimate, independent Palestinian state. And the #1 empowering the poverty of the Palestinian population in the West Bank and Gaza.

                    When we in the West defacto tell Gazans, “Kill them Jews we got your back, we’ll help you rebuild, we’ll pressure them to allow themselves to be enslaved. You’ve got it so bad; it can never get worse.” We’re giving Gazans a false sense of security. If Gazans were black they would never receive this level of foreign support. If they weren’t attempting tourser Jews, they’d never have this level of support.

                    According to the UN there are 195 countries in the world, including Palestine. 194 of them receive less per capita aid and commit less per capita terrorism. Gaza could easily become the Madagascar or Haiti or Chad in 6 months and be 1000x worse off than they are today.