• NaibofTabr
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    3 months ago

    The only problem I see is that it’s escalatory. If Ukraine starts using Western-supplied weapons for offensive operations, this situation goes from supplying war material for defense (under-the-table proxy war) to full-on overt proxy war. Russia will spin this as “NATO is using Ukraine to attack us” (though they’re probably doing that already).

    I can’t see how this won’t lead to a wider conflict.

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        3 months ago

        I’m sure you’re right.

        How do we use our understanding of that, and the way that they operate, to avoid a full scale war?

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          3 months ago

          There IS a full scale war going on. 31,000 confirmed dead Ukranian soldiers, and up to 120,000 dead Russian soldiers. We don’t even have a good idea how many civilian deaths, but the total death toll could be as high as 500,000.

          And no, before you start - Mutually Assured Destruction isn’t “a full scale war”. Its Annihilation of both sides, and has no precedent in the history of war.

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              Putin can’t even hold his own territory. I don’t think even he would open another front by attacking a NATO member even if the west started greenlighting their weapons be used in the incursion.

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              3 months ago

              If Nato got involved directly Moscow would be leveled in a month.

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          3 months ago

          We already crossed many times their “red lines”. This is just the good old “China’s Final Warning”.

          They are already barely managing to slowly advance against a single foe, which is still transitioning between the old soviet warfare ways toward NATO’s one, with far less soldiers, I doubt they would ever hold against the full alliance firepower.

    • FelixCress@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      The only problem I see is that it’s escalatory

      Wasn’t invading Ukraine escalatory in the first place?

    • Pistcow@lemm.ee
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      3 months ago

      K. Russia cant even defend itself from Ukraine. Lets transition to the find out stage.

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      3 months ago

      Bro fucking russian troll, stfu

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      3 months ago

      You can thank Putin for making it go this far.

      Time he pays the piper.

    • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.ee
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      3 months ago

      Russia is Already losing to U.S. weapons being used by Ukraine. Do you really think they want to find out what U.S. weapons used by the U.S. feels like?